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    From Notebooks 1953 Those Who Oppose the Work Of Poem; A More Defining Lesson on Free Will

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    Post by Poem Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:59 pm



    Notebook of 1953 Quadernetti -- Printed in Italian but translated by Brother Chrys.
    Christ on Free Will and Opposition to the Poem[

    June 14, 1953 -7:45 pm

    Maria Valtorta's question:

    Jesus answers the question I asked while the Most Blessed Sacrament passed at the corner, near my house: "Why not force with an act of power, Lord, those who for years oppose the publication of the Work"


    Jesus' answer:

    I do not violate the free will which I have given to man. I limit Myself to pointing out with clear words and spiritual advice, what it is good to do in order to merit My blessing on Earth, and eternal glory in Heaven; or else My chastisement both here and [in the] Beyond. So did My Father do with the angels and with Adam and Eve, because thus it had to be done to confirm them in Grace or not in grace. And thus do I do with all men of every class and social condition: from kings to the poor, from Priests to the laity, from scholars to the ignorant.

    I subject all to the test which should confirm them in grace or make them fall into disgrace. But woe to those who, like your First Parents, through a spirit of haughtiness and envy, make bad use of the free will which I gave them, to test their virtue, just like the goldsmith tests the purity of the metal in the crucible. To them will be given the same condemnation as Adam and Eve, who were expelled from the earthly Paradise, separated from the nearness of the Father-Creator, fallen from Grace, [and] condemned for years to Limbo. So, too, these [who make bad use of their free will]—they will be condemned not to Limbo, but to Purgatory: which is a place of much greater torment. These, too, will expiate till the end of the ages their sins of haughtiness, envy, spite, injustice and, above all, their lack of charity towards their neighbor—that is, toward you [Maria], and toward all those souls who, through the Work, would have found faith again and, hence, Life and eternal Salvation.

    For all these souls who could not be saved through the fault of these haughty, envious Clergy, they will have to render an account to Me, and expiate the bad use they made of the free will that I had given them. Not only that, but they are enlightened, supported, guided with the proper charisms which the Priesthood confers on every Minister of the Clergy, and which are so much the more ample and powerful, the greater their religious rank and theological culture. The higher their office and culture, the more severe also [will be] the chastisement for their fault. It is I Who say this to you, Maria. Ah! These Shepherds of souls who forbid the wholesome pasture to the sheep and the lambs, and do not themselves do anything to save them when the sheep have strayed and are in danger—what faults they commit, what sorrow they give Me!

    In vain will they later, in the particular Judgment, invoke then My pardon, My Mercy! I can only answer them: "I gave you bread and the water of life for whoever was hungry and thirsty, and you rejected Me and My gift. Now I reject you. Go and expiate, each of you in proportion to the sin you have committed. You did not want to recognize Me in the Work.

    Now, I do not recognize you. Go. I am Mercy, it is true. I am Charity, it is true. But I am also perfect Justice. And now I make My Justice act, this alone, since while you were in life you rejected Me: Mercy and Charity. Nothing justifies your actions and obstinacy toward the Work. Hence, nothing can change My Divine judgment. Go and expiate!"

    "Another thing for which I cannot forgive any of you, and which you must expiate: your lack of truth toward My instrument. You have always lied with her and to her—she, poor creature, a teacher of truth for you. Expiate this too, because there is never too much expiation for one who obstinately wrongs [another]. What mercy could I give any of you, if you never had mercy? Go and expiate."

    I am always He Who rebuked the guilty of the Temple. I do not change. You must all expiate like them. They expiated later—after My Death, Resurrection, and Ascension—with the loss of everything: Temple, power, wealth, country, and even material and spiritual life.

    Peace be with you



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    From Notebooks 1953 Those Who Oppose the Work Of Poem; A More Defining Lesson on Free Will Empty An Angel is Mentioned as Preaching the Eternal Gospel

    Post by Poem Wed May 06, 2009 8:13 pm

    Revelations 14

    6 And I saw another angel flying through the midst of heaven, having the eternal gospel, to preach unto them that sit upon the earth, and over every nation, and tribe, and tongue, and people:

    The Angel of God having the Eternal Gospel


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    Post by Poem Fri Sep 27, 2024 3:43 am



    For those interested in the Little Notebook called: Link: https://mariavaltorta.com/gli-scritti/quadernetti/

    Quadernetti

    €19,00 – €22,00

    Scritti sparsi, su vari argomenti e con date dal 1942 al 1954,
    However if you're a soul that has one and can translate please do.

    In Italian it is called Quadernetti.  


    Notebooks

    i quaderni is a single notebook. i quaderni translated means notebook.

    She had over a hundred notebooks which she wrote in.



    Quadernetti is simply small notebook or little notebook. Which she wrote from 1942 to 1954 that were separated into other.

    The Quadernetti is only available in Italian it seem? There isn't one for English.


    Go to mariavaltorta.com, to the Maria Valtorta Heritage Foundation to find out more.



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    We can direct your attention to Australia to read up which is a very good resource.


    link: https://www.valtorta.org.au

    there you can find a readers site and much more.

    Peace be with you always

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