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    The Mystery Of Suffering

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    What does suffering gain?  A deeper understanding of how others are.  
    No one is alone in suffering.  Suffering comes in all levels and stages.

    Let us go to the Beginning of Life on Earth.  Eden.  God created a paradise and set man in it. He said be fruitful and multiply.  He blessed the Earth and Man and all creatures.  He blessed the Creation.

    All creation was created "Good" not knowing Evil which brings pain, suffering, sadness and the many things contrary to 'Good.'

    If we notice God's words in the beginning times before the regeneration period of Christ, the Mercy, the Divine Mercy, God said to them who were more perfect then we are today, because they were created perfect in the creation, being made perfect in all ways, intelligence, mind, body, soul, they did not have the Sin to destroy yet, God was kind and sweet to them and let them know kindly, giving them understanding of all God had created.  Beautiful.  He infused this knowledge into them, because they were spiritually perfect just as He is.  He was able directly infuse this knowledge, the entire creation.  In a moments flash.  Boom! Just like lightning. One swoop. They did not have damage of intellect at this point and were perfectly able to receive without obstacles.  Clear.

    They did not know pain, suffering, sadness in the beginning no Sin yet. They were happy, at pure peace and innocent, pure, holy and sanctified by God.  As pure as can be.  Perfect intelligent minds in being created.  Not yet seasoned and made firm in living.  Established. No not yet Established. They had all the knowledge of Creation except for the creation of Man how man was made.  This is God's alone the creation of Man.  

    When Sin entered, Death entered bringing, pain, suffering, sadness, all the negative qualities, affects, a long list of things that are not good.  


    It is departure from Peace. In true peace, there is no disturbance.  This is God's glory of Heaven -- Peace. Everyone loves, kindness, gentleness, higher levels of understanding as a result of Love giving them Peace. It saturates Heaven.  Everything and everyone is a total and complete peace. No insurrections.  Thus Heaven is protected by God the Peace Giver. He is Peace.
    He is all these wonderful character traits. It is intrinsic part of Him. Just as all the virtues.  They are all intrinsic part of God and God graces all of Heaven with them.  He Brings nothing but Pure Peace.  Thus Lucifer and the band of rebel angels found no place there.  Booted and tossed into the Abyss. Hell was created for the rebels. Insurrection.  Eternal punishment for rebelling. You this is an interesting scenario. If Lucifer had realized at any given moment, he was wrong, and repented, God would have healed him.  But Lucifer as we have read, did not. He continued to follow this proud thought not backing down, not using his intelligence to realize his fault.  Proud, I will not serve your Son. Thus that was it. End of the Line.  No longer obedient to Love who created him and gave him the highest honor as Son of the Morning.  He was a son after all.  He became wicked, and Jesus is all Love and obedience.  Thus Jesus has inherited all of God's possessions which God had given to him.  Not sure what all that entails. But certainly the Good Son obeyed out of pure good love.  

    When someone does not do as said, or promised what reaction comes?  A negative reaction.  Pain in some level, suffering and sadness in some level.  

    To understand what obedience is, it takes a bit of experiencing disobedience.  We simply do not know all the consequences.  We cannot know.  We know that not doing as asked two things occur the thing asked to do is not done, and the person who asked is anxious.  Anxious for to have it done.  But what we do not know is that persons, suffering, and sadness. It may be just a little, but not doing the thing brings these.  Suffering occurs. Some pain happens, it may be a little, but it has started.  So we know later on, by not doing something, it causes some pain and suffering and sadness.  What this feels like to us.  Pain brings anger, suffering brings angst and bitterness, sadness drowns a soul and the heart is in some feeling that is not joy.

    So what happens on a greater scale, an act?  Such as stealing?  Killing? Robbing? Thieving?
    Greater suffering, greater pain, greater sadness.

    In the paradise Eden, before the Sin, these things did not exist.  In Heaven these things do not exist.  What exists in the Two Perfect and Glorified persons is suffering on a different scale. They have feelings because they have a flesh body that has senses and emotions.  The angels on the other hand do not experience any pain, suffering of any kind as we do. They see and they sigh. Ah, he didn't get it, but lets hope and pray give him assistance to become as we are, believing and trusting.  In heaven is believing and trusting on a perfect scale.  They do no doubt, there is no negativity.  Because sin is not there to bring pain, suffering, sadness. These are the major consequences of Sin to Man born of woman.  It is in the flesh what is flesh.  This part.

    The soul experiences these things from the flesh.  It takes over and bends the soul.
    Those who do not suffer greatly and have not suffered in great ways, do not understand, because they have no experience.  The feelings, thoughts, pain, suffering, sadness in great proportions.
    No depth of Suffering, but, listen we all suffer great or small, big or little.  

    Prior to Christ's Suffering, God had only the intelligence of suffering. Not the experience. Because Suffering comes from Death. God is Life.  He knows that what is not Life is always Death, because he is only Life Love. Do you understand this?  He is Perfect in everything.

    Christ is God, became Incarnate God. God became Flesh for us.  What did God do?
    He took suffering, pain, and sadness to the infinite and made it Perfect so God uses this for forgiveness, to grant Mercy and Forgiveness for all.  He took the Evil done to Man and uses it for Our Good.  That is what Love Does.  God knew beforehand. And knew pain and suffering and sadness what it does to souls, spirits, animals, birds, fish.  He knew.  So He uses it for our good.
    Takes the evil and turns it into Good. Passion of Christ is a Good for all. God took pain and suffering and sadness to it's infinite limits in Christ. So He is Perfect in Suffering and Death. He then took these away and Blessed them for Our Good. A weapon of Satan. A weapon. God turned this weapon for Good to Save. Mercy, Compassion, Kindness.  Love saves.

    Jesus the Perfect Martyr. Jesus took all our sufferings, pain, and sadness, for us all. He knows all suffering, pain and sadness. He did not get assistance in relieving pain, suffering, sadness. No medicines from Man or God His Father. To know and experience the depth of Pain and Suffering.  God helps man to relieve pain and suffering lest it overtakes us.  

    The weapon of Satan is the anti-thesis of all that is Good and Life. His doctrine. Jesus defeated Satan.  He took death and all his weapons blessed them for our good.  It is a mystery but Only God can accomplish this.  Yet, we have free will to choose as all spirits and souls do. Because God is free too and he creates and gives free will.  You are free to choose.  He does not do violence to your free will to choose.  But He is Father and Creator.  We live according to His good will.  

    This suffering, pain and sadness is truly a deep topic.  
    Free will is also most deep topic. There is no end to any of these we would run fresh out of ways to talk about them.  

    What is Life is Infinite in Measure, why?  God is Life and is Infinite in Life. No end to it and we would run fresh out of words.  

    So when Life is created, a soul or an angel, it is created to live and not be extinguished from existing.   Endless, why?  God is this way, eternal. Once created you live eternally. There are two destinies:  Heaven and Hell.  God is Father of all, Jesus is King of Heaven,
    Satan is death, and King of Hell.  Appointed by God the Father of all that is.

    You have a choice to choose each day till your last breath.  Remember the Two Thieves at the Crucifixion:  Disma and the other.  One went to Paradise the other went to Hell with Satan.

    Peace be with you always



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    Post Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:22 pm by Poem



    What do we all suffer? Death.

    What are the many ways of this death?

    For starters a death of family, a mother a father a sibling. These are the greatest of impact to us. We suffer in pain great loss that is a void that is not filled immediately. We mourn.
    It feels endless, the void, never see them, hear them, talk to them, love them, touch them, on and on. Their smiles, their words of love, their everything! It is no more! How dreadful! Choose your words here what you felt a dynamic thing in all the way of loss.
    The void if God had not step in, would remain in us. A hole in us. God does us a good so we can move on. But this loss is alway with us. The presence is there it becomes faded but it is there. Just not in the power it once was.

    So now lets take this to another way. What happens when a wrong is done? Death to some feeling, suffering occurs, suffering is pain, so is sadness in some level. Your thought is wounded. A wound. Life is not about wounds but power to joy, cheerfulness, goodness, kindness, sweetness, gentleness, and these are supposed to be constant.
    Life here meaning no death -- death which brought suffering, pain, sadness.

    What do the angels have? Life. What do the blessed souls in Heaven have? Life.
    What do the damned souls have? Pain, suffering, sadness on an scale we cannot imagine. If you were given one infusion of Death below, you would be so shocked, you die from this it is too great for human beings to accept and not be ruined for life.

    Death is the opposite of Life. In that if you knew true Death, you could not live while living on this earth.

    God generates and creates Life. He gives graces to live. If you chose death and evil, and you have been baptized, given life in the Church but sin, and sin, and sin, His graces gives life. Death would flourish in you, the effects of concupiscence would grow and grow. Giving life to vices. God nourishes. It is up to us to cut off vices lest it really grows.

    Lets look at the 'nature.' Grass, and weeds. Good stuff and nasty stuff.
    Grass the good stuff, weed the nasty stuff in this example. What is crabgrass? Couchgrass! What is darnel? Ivy, vines that wrap around and strangle.

    Vice is not good stuff grass that is beautiful. It is crabgrass, couchgrass which kills the good grass. The sun and the rain falls on both. We are our own gardeners of our souls.
    Angels are too. But we need God's help when the crabgrass is uncontrollable. We need God's help to overcome temptations, we need God's help for salvation and preservation.

    That's what the Sacraments are for, Salvation and Preservation. But we need to Pray and ask. Ask and it shall be given, seek and you shall find, knock and the door shall be opened for us, "Anyone." Salvation and Preservation is for All with a soul.

    Peace be with you always


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    Post Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:11 am by Poem



    I was reading Book 5 Jesus speaks on the topic Parable on Advice. He has Three versions.
    In one of them I read Jesus is speaking about two of the sons in the Kingdom of His Father.
    One son is good and the other is wicked. Yet, God wants the wicked to become like the good one.
    God does not wish nor desire the wicked to remain wicked.  He wants to blandish the wicked with love and gifts. God looks at these rebellious and incredulous sons severely, but does not reproach them, he wants to attract them with his love. So they too can inherit the eternal life in the Kingdom of Life.  He wants only you to be love yourself.  To become love.  Because they are His sons too.  So no soul is not of God.  All souls come from God.  It is Satan who incites and instigates to man to be rebellious and end up wicked.  So why not let God then teach you about love. Do you know that love is greatest there is? It is a gift of God to have in yourself to be love yourself. To have love yourself.  What a tremendous change of innerself this becomes! No more violence, hatred, evil things, wickedness.  

    Love saves and conquers even Hell.  Jesus conquered, the world, the flesh and death. Gave himself, Life.  He is the example of God's Love.  What Jesus did what had to be done. His Passion was necessary to defeat Satan who brought death to man.  Life in suffering to conquer Death. Jesus took the power of Death away. So now all men born of woman are able to come to be washed of stain of Sin. Sin is Death. Sin is Satan. Death is Satan. Life is God. God took away this power by Jesus' Passion. Grace is able to come back to Man to lead him to Life.  

    However, the flesh will die, just not your soul. You can save your soul and live with God forever.

    It is all Love.  We did not love God, but God has always loved us.

    It may take awhile to understand reading through pages of the Bible. Without the Holy Spirit teaching you the Bible, it is lifeless.  The human mind that is what is carnal cannot comprehend.  Life in God is fusion of understanding. It is fused knowledge and understanding.   It comes in lights, a huge light and increases our capabilities immeasurably.  It is Grace's ability entirely.  God giving to Man.  

    The Seven Gifts of the Holy Spirit, He comes to alight us, and descends into us to possess us and we possess Him and His gifts. He teaches us new ways to think and converts your minds to speak in his ways. We get converted. He gives us new senses. Tremendous!



    Peace be with you always

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