A Few More Explanations Concerning The Sin of Adam


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    A Few More Explanations Concerning The Sin of Adam

    Post by Poem

    Most of us did not know what the Sin was. What happened, what act was committed. And when the truth is said, people shake their heads in disbelief and argue, but, arguing against God and the truth does you no good, because you won't be saved nor converted. Nor will you be enlightened, but, remain ignorant and attached to your flesh and all its desires, appetites, so forth. When you read the Book of Romans, --the Holy Spirit spoke through St. Paul-- concerning the difference between the flesh and spirit. You can also read 1 Corinthians, concerning the flesh and spirit.

    Let's read Genesis concerning the punishment of Eve or woman.

    Genesis Chapter 3

    [16] To the woman also he said: I will multiply thy sorrows, and thy conceptions: in sorrow shalt thou bring forth children, and thou shalt be under thy husband's power, and he shall have dominion over thee.

    Let's say the sin-the act was not fornication-copulation, God would have punished them or her, according to the 'sin' which was committed.

    In the Notebooks, Jesus, God-Man, states that the punishment fits the crime. Since Eve was the one seduced and took the sin to Adam, Adam was convinced to act, Eve is the one receiving the punishment of pain from the start: you shall bring forth children in sorrow. Sorrow encompasses, pain in giving birth.

    [17] And to Adam he said: Because thou hast hearkened to the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldst not eat, cursed is the earth in thy work; with labour and toil shalt thou eat thereof all the days of thy life.

    [18] Thorns and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herbs of the earth. [19] In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread till thou return to the earth, out of which thou wast taken: for dust thou art, and into dust thou shalt return.

    [20] And Adam called the name of his wife Eve: because she was the mother of all the living.

    Punishment fits the 'crime.' They wanted to create their own offspring. From the earth, Adam's body was created, Get this, God is no longer addressing Adam as soul, but, Adam as just earthly-mud. For God says, "from the earth you were taken" God is talking to Adam as fallen from Grace, for Adam killed himself by removing himself from Grace which is God. He separated himself from God by generating new flesh with Eve. What's wrong with that you say? From God's perspective everything. Why? Satan laid a snare and a trap in the 'woman.' So man would be bitten by the Serpent. We have to look at this piece by piece. God is telling us that Eve saw the fruit looked good and pleasant to the eye, good. She thought and was convinced that the fruit was good. Pretty straightforward. Adam is not present with her. The Serpent then seduces Eve, she is intoxicated by the idea of committing the act and goes to Adam to share what the Serpent had given her. He gave her knowledge. She then took this new found knowledge to try it with Adam, her husband. She as the knowledge first. The act has not been consummated yet. She is anxious to try it. She is lusting, she wants to be satisfied in the flesh for up to then, she has not been anything but, 'spirit.' She this? The Lord above has changed his addressing from soul to flesh. For from the earth was your flesh taken and it shall return as dust. God is not referring to Adam's soul here. Because we have to understand, that the soul is immortal otherwise this part does not make any sense and one would conclude that man does not have a soul. Yet Genesis chapter two states, man became a living soul. One has to use their intelligence, to reason. When the Spirit of God is speaking, it is most of the time soft and gentle, that we do not see, and hear what He is referring to. Sensitivity to God's voice is needed.

    Now, read the above with Wisdom teaching and guiding, otherwise known as not reading as a human. God must infuse this knowledge into you and not the other way around. For it is God's Wisdom and Knowledge from the Beginning that created, man. And man who has been separated by the cunning, intelligent Serpent, needs to be reunited with Him who made us, in order for man to be corrected from the error and can once again become wise and walk with God. Otherwise you walk with Satan remaining as one who learns from Satan, with many gaps, not knowing too much; the Knowledge of the Tree of Good and Evil. For man has both.

    To become one with God, man must remove, the Evil and be only Good. For God is only, 'Good.'

    Before Man became Good and Evil, notice Good first then Evil second, only Good existed before God created man and the angels: GOD existed. 'When Man was created, he was good only.' He was created good in the beginning, due to the fact that the Evil had not yet been infused into man: the knowledge of evil. The author of Evil is Satan.

    Man becomes his own god by copulating with the woman creating new flesh; this knowledge only God had and Satan knew about because before Lucifer fell, Lucifer saw God in action creating the Universe. The Universe was created first. Man was created after all was created and Lucifer was present during all this. Lucifer then witnessed the creation of Man and then it happened, Lucifer wanted to rule over all God had created. He became 'Evil.' Not that he wanted to, but, to oppose all that is Good requires one to transform. Evil was the opposite of Good and so Lucifer chose that, no other choices to be made nor available. One or the other. What the angel should have done was give up and remain good. But he did not. He had ambition to rule all of God's creation. Thus, God gave Lucifer a quick vision of the future to convince and change his mind should he remain obstinate, but, Lucifer took this gesture as weakness and began his assault on God and Heaven, wherein Lucifer was defeated and cast into Hell.

    There's a lot to taken in. It has taken me years to absorb and accept God's answers. First, you must recognize who it is that is talking to you. Without this, it really doesn't matter. God always tells the truth and the truth is very painful to hear, but, once you get over it, it relieves. You are relieved and over many hurdles and consequently on your way to the Pearly Gates. The Ten Monuments. Amen

    Peace be with you always
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    Post on Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:04 am by Poem

    God instills in us His Wisdom, to help form our intellects, our minds, our thoughts, our intelligence, understanding to be able to reason, perfectly. This is good. Since Evil has entered into the sphere below Heaven, man must choose which one to use and be, 'Subject' to. Man must labor below Heaven to obtain Heaven, or obtain Hell.

    It so happens when man chooses to be subject to obtain Hell, he is its slave. Because, pride is slavery. Slavery of the mind, your intellect is not filled with Wisdom and Love, Light and Peace. Instead, you are filled, with exactly the opposite of what I just stated. No freedom, though you are free to act, you are being controlled by Satan. Controlled. There is the difference.

    With God, you are filled with, God. Because Heaven is God. Eternity is God. God is All Encompassing Up there. It's just that we don't understand what Heaven is because we don't see it with our eyes to gaze and take in, or observe to conclude. By looking one can tell if a tree is a tree. Knowledge. Now the knowledge of spirits is the same. Once your soul looks at God it becomes instantly filled with, 'Knowledge.' Thus, those with impurity in them get burned up. Those who are pure become filled with more of God. This reality, or concept as I call it now, because we have not experienced it yet, can only be understood when the God infuses this knowledge into you. Otherwise it is a wild guess. I understand because I was told to say this. Otherwise I don't need to know it, until I get there. But for those who need more to go on, it is said. But at the same time, since you now know, you are expected to remember.

    A voice, must live a certain way. But it is always God who chooses those who speak.

    What the Lucifer's sin is: He wanted to be 'admired.' Only God is "I Am." He who creates. Pride is what God calls it. A thing created wants to usurp authority, be disrespectful, dishonor, not grateful to He Who gave him life. Then one thing leads to the next, and he wanted to rule Heaven. Thus, a created being, cannot overthrow an Infinite Being with Infinite Power. This is God folks, Infinite Being with Infinite Power. Your Father in Heaven. God is Life. If you choose Death, it is your own choice.

    God so happened to prepare a place for those who reject, 'Life.' A place called Hell, because it is the opposite of Paradise.

    You want Death, Hell exists for eternity. You want Life, Heaven exists for eternity. Souls are spirits, generated by God the Immortal Perfect Being. So your soul is not created outside of God, nor from the Earth, thus making it 'immortal.'

    Peace be with you always

    Post on Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:15 pm by Poem

    How to put this?

    Adam was created a 'living soul.' When he sinned, he was just flesh. Grace departed from his soul, and God no longer shined in his soul. He became just flesh. Although his soul was still intact in his body, his soul lost the Beautiful Grace which was caressed by God. Thus, the Light departed and Darkness came instead.

    When God blew the breath of life into Adam, God put His properties into Adam, which is Grace. In one swoop. A soul and Grace came to being in Adam.

    When Grace departed God said this to Adam:

    Genesis Chapter 3

    [19] In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread till thou return to the earth, out of which thou wast taken: for dust thou art, and into dust thou shalt return.

    Adam became like the animals God created. His soul was no longer alive. It was as if, he never had one. And this is the case since. Although Grace is around us and keeps man thriving, it is not in us, for the majority and they live in the separated state, a state where God, Grace is not in the body of man. The soul becomes illuminated when Grace enters the body. Without Grace, which is God, one cannot become perfect as God describes in the Bible. To be Perfect as your Father in Heaven Perfect. Jesus tells us this perfect is to become perfect in love. To have perfect Love. Nothing else. Love is Wisdom and Love is Light. God is Love. God chose Love because Love overcomes all things and is kind, gracious, gentle, powerful, intelligent, giving, caring, comforting, so forth. There is no evil in love. Many people mistake lust for love, because lust and love are in man. Which one has grown more than the other? Lust cancels out love. It bends love down. It strangles it.

    Thus, the mind thinks it's loving, when it's lusting. The words that come forth as such as, I love that .... but they love the lust.

    Flesh only thing. It would not be at all bad if, it was good. Lust bring about calamity and ruin. Because it is not aware of what it is doing and what harm it may cause to get it. It doesn't care how it is done. Thus, calamity and ruin happen.

    Adam lost Grace and did not have it back. He had Grace near him. But not in him. God remained Father to Adam during his entire life on earth. God gave Adam, knowledge, or wisdom to make clothes, shelter, till the ground, and many other things necessary to sustain human life.

    Adam learned that God was a True Father, and Adam repented of his mistake. God forgave him. At his death, God put his soul in Limbo and not with the Snakes. Forgiveness. God grants forgiveness to those who truly repent and amend their ways. Do this and give yourself, Heaven.

    Peace be with you always

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