Today's Mixed Up Versions, Leaders and so Forth?

by **Poem** on Sun Oct 04, 2009 6:47 am

What a mess!

The problem is: Weeding out all the falsehoods, would be's, might be's, could be's and so forth. It comes from those who hears such and such from so and so. The Whisperer in your ear's. None other than the One who wants to discredit and destroy the Church on Earth. Part of Jesus' Body, which, by the way cannot be 'destroyed'. The Word Made Flesh, Jesus is the Word of God and Jesus is Man. The Soul of Jesus-Man, the Divinity of the Word of God. Rather, in Jesus is the Word of God. In you and I is also the Word of God after communion and remaining in Him.

The other side wants nothing but to fill your heads with all the wrong things, (twisted truth, which is lies and falsehood, an imitation just like in the Garden of Eden no different) because, the other side knows how weak is man's constitution. How weak. They, hit you with blunt instruments, such as blunt words. They do this to intimidate. Because they're on their mission. To discredit and destroy the Church, through its members. Christ's Body the Church cannot be destroyed. Remember there are: Purgatory and Triumphant Church. Christ Body is One Complete Body not, three separated entities or organisms. St. Peter is the Rock, He's in Heaven, the Church Triumphant. Those who are earthly minded, have a hard time understanding the spiritual things. There are imitation spiritual things. But, in the end they are just that, imitations with no real substance, they crumble before true spiritual things.

Lets, take the material sphere for the momemt and remove it from your minds eye. Poof! Gone..
Now, lets focus on the world of spirits. Poof! There it is.. There is no separation between, spirits, except Heaven and Hell. One place is Bliss, the other is a true separation. Heaven envelopes the atmosphere above, while the atmosphere of Hell, remains below. The battle for spirits on this material plane hell fighting with seduction to bring souls down below and Heaven fighting with love to bring spirits above. That's it.

Now lets explain this material plane, it is a section carved out in Heaven, that has a law of material, substance that flesh can touch, see, and use. Like a garden. For Genesis says, Garden of Eden. A garden. The Earth was created by God as an garden for His children. For a Garden as this, God explains 'Paradise' for His children, not a battlefield.

Lucifer made the Earth a battlefield. For he declared war on God. No need to explain about battles and all their means and acts. Hate vs. Love.

Here's the part that needs to be contemplated. Who is more powerful? The created, or the Creator?

Thus many people fear that the Church is being destroyed, but it's really the members who are being disrupted. The Stunning affect. Lets stun them, to buy us more time. While we work to dismantle everything inside, but the only dismantling being done is temporary, transient, material things. My Body is not buildings made of stone. It is the building of a God, a spiritual house. Because many have already fallen. Only when they see others still persevering, will they catch on and hopefully leap towards the rightside. The whole world is corrupt, they cannot be converted. Only those whom are pre-destined, can have the faith to be saved.

We don't need all the concocted formulae to perform Communion. Let the falsefiers create fumes and do whatever they like, let us continue the marathon to the end and reach our goal that is to be with God for all eternity.

What is Holy Communion? In short it is Communion with God. Lets make this part more clear, A Profound Communion with God. Contemplate this.

Protestantism.

First, well, Luthor rings the loudest, but before Luther were many others, they just weren't called protestants. They were called heretics, gnostics, so forth. Protestantism is a spin off from Church, Holy Apostolic. Here's another test, does a Protestant church say Holy Protestant Church of said denomination? or Holy Apostolic Protestant Church? It is by all means, an rebellion conceived through corruption here and there. The problem is that, by withholding the Chalice to those who want it is a sin. To deny God to believers is a sin against God. Jesus said, woe to those who cause my children to stumble and fall. And a few other words concerning children, recall them all. *Protestants refer the 1500's to King of England; but in history of the Church Luthor began Protestantism, while the previous times, they were of the same mind and had ideas; the King of England just wanted to do things his own way and interpret the Word his own way. A 'rebellion' never brings, the truth. It is all full of ideas and whims, dross. The Truth is right there in the Gospel. It is full and entire. To be a true Christian one must believe and follow It in it's fullness, or you will be committing a heresy. But beware of which Bible you have and read. Today's modern times have caused the Bible to come with the ideas of today's interpretation rather than remaining true to God's originally conceived words, directed by the Word of God through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit to those men who were committed to the Gospel. These men brought the Word as is, mostly by reciting from others who heard it from others. The chain. Read the 1947 Notebook section concerning what Christ has dictated to Maria. Very clear.

Commentary on the Gospel ( Adapting to the Gospel )
http://poemmangod.forumotion.com/1944-notebook-f37/pg-240-and-this-is-what-you-must-do-with-the-masterwork-of-your-spiritual-life-t1031.htm

Here's an simple example but, a real example that is more true than an example, but for the sake of describing I use the Word.

The 10 Commandments, if you do not take heed to each one, you commit a sin, because in not keeping each one you have failed to keep the entire commandments. Each commandment is indicative of the other, it is not separated one from the other. They are all connected and interwined. A set order, that when you follow each one properly you remain in Grace, the just shall live by Grace. Faith comes from Grace, Grace is God. The Holy Spirit is Grace for Man, Jesus Christ, the Word of God is Grace for man. God is Grace. The Father is gratuitous by giving us Grace, For He is Grace Himself. Grace.

The Epistle of James says the same thing about breaking one of the commandments. If you break one you failed to keep the whole law.

In that you do not believe the whole Gospel, you are not following Gospel, that is to imitate Christ. The Gospel is One Complete thing, they are the words of His disciples, that were eye witnesses, spread, from one disciple to another; not separated bits and pieces where you pick and choose what is your most believable and achieveable aspect. In that you do not believe in one aspect of it, you are not truly a follower of Gods chosen Words, His Words, string together making one complete mystery. That is to Be regenerated and reborn into Grace to adore the Word of God so you can have life and not death for all eternity. Your soul which is the Breath of God.

Now it so happens that the incision, which is not part of the 'circumcision', plot to destroy, so they are watching everything closely. Believe it. These are Satan's ministers. They, are used by Satan, poor souls, pray for them to convert. Hold up the Cross. Lord forgive them, for they truly do not know what they are doing. Amen.

Peace be with you always

by **Poem** on Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:41 am

Protestantism is refered to here: (Jesus mentions this elsewhere in book 3 or 4, and in the Notebooks)

Jesus says:

"And different is the method to be used to save modern proselytes, that is those who have accepted the Christian idea, but not the Christian citizenship, as they belong to separated Churches. No one is to be despised, and these lost sheep less than everyone. Love them and try to lead them back to the Only Fold, so that the desire of the Shepherd Jesus may be fulfilled."

Protestants, that have accepted the Christian idea need to be converted to the Christian Citizenship. There is a great big difference. Citizenship means Church; Holy Apostolic Roman Catholic Church. To be Citizen
of New Jerusalem, you have to join it. Ideas live outside, if you make it, you become a haze and not the 'stars', that reside in the City. The ones living in the City are Saints, these sacrificed all for Christ, because He said, no sacrifice shall go unrewarded, as in what you give up God will compensate manifold. When God compensates, it's not like the cheap compensations of man. Oh, NO! Nothing quite like it! God rewards, men are cheap and selfish.

Regardless of what some of the leaders spew out, it is what Christ says that truly matters in the end, but lets start at the beginning and then you should end up in the same text and thinking because to refuse light is to refuse God.

Heaven as you now know is, Saints and Angels, these two choirs. Communion of Saints. Catholic because the Author of the Church, Jesus Christ, said so. That's all there's to it. If you don't believe it, why do preach another Christ, denying, the 'vital' parts of it? To deny the Eucharist is to Deny Christ, because Christ is in the Eucharist. To deny Christ. The Eucharist is the most important part of all these important things Jesus did for mankind. Why is it the most important Miracle? It gives back to man, the lost elements. Sin degraded man to animals. In Grace you are truly men and women (1944 Notebook; PoMG). The Eucharist kills the incentives of concupiscence. It Obliterates 'it,'--the work of Satan. Jesus had to disciple men, so they could spread the Good News, suffer and die, so He could give us the means to remain in Grace. For without, the Sacraments, we cannot remain in Grace. It is impossible. Don't think you're Moses or some other Patriarch, these were special men. In the highest degree. God made it so. Without Grace teaching and forming your thoughts, you remain in human thought, saying: 'how can that be?' This is exactly what you say. It is impossible! That is why so many Protestants, balk at this statement by Jesus: "What is impossible for man, is possible for God" For nothing is impossible for God. Of course nothing is impossible for God. Look the Main Character in the Gospel--'Jesus,' He died, was buried and rose again. Only God can do that. Did God create man? Did God create the Universe? Did God create the angels? These are simple words, but, without Grace revealing the depths of these words, they are the same a passing thoughts, which is similar to the clouds, that come and go. Thus, they never seat in your soul to sprout. Without Grace, no seed will remain planted. They become, dead and or picked by birds.

Peace be with you always

by **Poem** on Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:43 am

The Gospel is the Good News of salvation through Jesus Christ. The only way to salvation. The only way to Heaven.

When at the moment you die, that is, your spirit separates from your 'dead' body, every man is pre-judged by Jesus. After this, depending on what your last action was, the angel of God takes your spirit to one of two destinations: Purgatory or Heaven.

If you had lived an Evil life and never requested amnesty (forgiveness by repenting) the angel of Satan takes your soul to hell. Where you will live graphically tortured life. No if and or but.

Then, at the Great Review, wherein all souls get the 'Post' judgment, you are then in two states to be sent to:

The New Heaven, wherein we read that New Jerusalem descends down from God, or the eternal fire of hell.

The Eternal fire of Hell, no one wants to hear about. It is such today that, people are turned off by, more depressing images. Here's the problem, turn off your entertainment boxes and read the Word of God. Cleanse yourselves from the garbage the world has setup for you to be entertained with, these things are distractions that teach all the things and makes you numb, to the Truth, They are more powerful than anesthetics.

I can tell you how powerful it is. It fills your mind with garbage so thick that, when you try to change, it is truly next to impossible to change. Without, graces from God, you cannot change. You have to desire it.

Here's the problem drilled down even further, you have no strength in you to tend towards spiritual things, because you have no knowledge of it. True knowledge of it. Your slate has no, pillars, to rely on.
Your full of the wrong stuff. You are the same as cup. What you put inside it, is what it is. If you put material things in this cup, you are whatever it is. The cup has a thin layer, or the space the outer layer of this glass occupies is next to slim picking's compared to the amount of space the the liquid occupies. The latter amount is much greater. The outer layer is similar to your fleshly body. The inner portion is similar to your soul. What you put inside is what you truly are. You are what you eat. The spirit of true children of God are fed Light, in the light comes, all the nourishment in the form of graces. These graces have many names. But for the sake of not to make one too focused on each one, I give you one, Wisdom. Wisdom is the principal thing which makes men incredibly smart. It makes one so smart, that, human things are but, a shade, a fading past tense. They have no meaning. Because God is Wisdom, He imparts Wisdom to those who desire it. This knowledge, Wisdom, created, all that exists in the known Universe. Without it you cannot understand nor know what they truly are. What their purposes truly are.

Peace be with you always

by **Poem** on Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:52 am

A Rebellion does not bring Truth.

Truth is Point blank. It does not beat around the bush.

It does not Hide as some think. It is benign, because beasts cannot understand it.

Truth, is soft, kind, gentle, loving, and nourishing. Nourishment replenishes and increases vitality.

Peace be with you always

by **Poem** on Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:02 pm

God, Jesus, Descends.

What does this mean?

Lets look at the Old Testament, lets remove all the fancy words and the derogatory ones. How? Spirit only.

The Ark of the Covenant. God came down on the Ark. When God said I do not dwell in buildings made of stone, He meant, those who have not, been chosen, which means regenerated and reborn into Grace. He cannot dwell with stain of sin. Sin is Satan. Remove the disgust and God then comes. Good willed people are good. To describe this, I posted the chapter in book 5 where Judas is caught stealing.

Focus on St. John's attitude. He is scandalized by Evil actions. It offended him. He was hurt. He, pure in heart, could not comprehend evil, in this case, he a pure soul, who only thought of what is holy and pure, saw evil and it caused much turmoil in him. There's a difference, in how St. John received the action of evil, than, with those who do evil. He did not comprehend it, meaning, the evil did not enter into him, his pure soul.

Of course, St. John was most pure and evil had no part of him. None. His reaction can only be revealed by the spirit. With those of good will, who want purity like St. John.

In this, you can see, with spiritual eyes, what St. John really is. A virgin pure of heart. This purity exists in small or great portions, such as St. John, in good willed people. If you see evil, in this case such as St. John, his purity repelled the evil. 'God'--Protects purity like no other (innoncence), and good willed people must remain attached to goodness to repell evil. Or if not, a speck gets in. Once in, if not dispersed, repelled, it grows. It becomes couch grass where the evil roots take. They then become, hawthorne, and others. Growing a nasty death garden, until it kills every beautiful flower. Grace strangles and cancels out evil. Remain in Grace. St. John was in Grace. Remember, what Jesus said, Grace was given to the 'just'. St. John was 'just'.

You have a third eye it is entirely spiritual. Where did you get this? Jesus' in the 'works'. Jesus said, from my minds eye. He also led to this by His Apostle in the Gospel, where it is stated, if your eye be single and if it be dark how great is that darkness? The Evil One, knows about man, because God told the Evil One, He was going to create man, which is the cause of rebellion. Jealousy. Satan studies mankinds, for it is written by God that, Satan savors, prefers, the things of man, more than God, so in short, he worships the creature and not the Creator. But, his reasons are entirely different. He reasons are to subject man to himself, so he can become god over men. And take them to his kingdom, which is hell. He is a spiritual being who can see your soul and spirit. Never mind what some priests, say, Jesus tells us exactly how the devil works. He studies the luminaries. He perceives like a lion, he sniffs out, and can sense any weakness.

God created man with the ability to receive light, which teaches and nourishes. Jesus says in the Holy Hour, it nourishes the medula. To restore our spiritual eye. One must gaze upon the Holy One. Upon the Holy Mother with Her soft light.

At the Mass or Breaking of the Bread, when the priest says the consecration rite, Jesus descends into the Bread and Wine, both not one. He sits on High as the Supreme High Priest. Thus it is.

He comes down, meaning He descends from the High and Lofty Place to come to His children. In Jesus, is the Word and Wisdom of the Father, so when we hear Jesus, we hear the Father. Jesus descends with the Trinity at the Consecration. They ALL come.

Light comes to light. To the soul regenerated, reborn into Grace. To souls dead to Him, He flee's. Comes, and then leaves. But, He comes. Faithful. He comes to awaken you, to get you out of your death sleep. If you do not respond, He leaves, because you do not love Him. God is love. Love comes to give love and would like to receive love from you.

After, the High Priest is done, the Divinty of the Word of God remains and Jesus High Priest goes back up, or ascends back to His Seat. Thus the teaching chair. In those who find this, they are now little christ, who go about teaching and bearing witness to God's Truth.

Now, not to get confused, the Mass is a Special Rite. Jesus is not just singular, but multiple, manifold manifestations, He is many. But it is One Jesus. This is where, the mind plays tricks. God said, what is impossible for man, is possible for God. He can multiply His presence, but it is still One Jesus. Well, God is infinite. He can do anything. He has many roles. Eucharist, High Priest, but, always, Word and Wisdom of the Father. Why? So man can be saved and become whole again. For no other reason. This is the greatest reason. To save man from hell, sin, Satan. For this reason God has become the all for man. To save him.

Jesus tells his first disciples, man does not love Him, does not want to love him, does not want redemption, does not want to be redeemed. This part is tough to get. Because, He is God and reads all hearts, and not only in this present time but all times and generations. Even before they are born. He knows their destiny lived out. How? God generates all souls. It comes from Him. He knows. Thus, God's nature is Love. Without Love, we would not exist. The wicked could not do what they do, the good could not come to know God and Paradise, the saints, would not exist, the Church would not exist, the world would not exist, the Universe would not exist. He in short, would be a selfish God, with Himself. Can you fathom this? Probably not, or maybe you can. Lets put it this way, God has the ability to see the entire life of the soul, before it is infused into a flesh body. The soul is generated by Him in Him. Our souls are inside God so He can view the entire life span from start to finish before it is placed. Love creates. He could very well say, this soul's destiny is hell and I will not place it in this poor mother's womb. Yet, He does, because, Hope. And He can very well, infringe your free will and so and so. But, He does not. He give everyone the same, a body, a soul, a will, and intellect. Parents, friends, so forth. The problem is man is a wretch, greed, avarice, so forth. His flesh is corrupted it takes over, control. Thus, men live on the beastly instincts in some, and animal instincts in others, while the good willed, live their ways, according to good. Different levels. Each man is given time and free will to elevate his or her knowledge, understanding to above, beasts and animals, to come to be real men and women, by Grace. Without Grace, men, still have recourse to beasts and animal instincts even in the most purposed people, because, the Tempter, tempts them to. Without Grace you cannot resist, the Tempter. Grace strangles, the 'monster'.

Peace be with you always

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