Confusion about the Apocalypse
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Confusion about the Apocalypse
Way too many people do not understand what the book of Apocalypse is.
From Apocalypse 1
1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ,
What does this really mean? It means a vision given to St. John the Beloved of Jesus.
What is a vision? After Reading Notebooks, and Azariah, a vision is similar to going
to a movie. Or watching TV. The Tubes or Screens run film strips. Without a Lightbulb
that projector would cast nothing. A blank, but, the projector runs.
God is Light. A vision comes in the form of light. Your spirit see's a flash of light, in that
light is Wisdom. What is Wisdom? It is Knowledge, Understanding, Abilities, Love, Light.
The knowledge of the human kind where transference occurs by, speaking, reading,
or drawing. Wisdom brings all these on one zap. Then, not only does this, occur, but,
abilities. Light, to illuminate, Love to refresh with Love. Gives, imparts all these.
That's what God does. Angels, in Heaven, constantly receive these.
The human kind takes a long time to sprout, if ever, concieving the wrong fruits, because it is done imperfectly, it is not Wisdom, it only seeks that which is earthly.
Finishing Verse 1:
sending by his angel to his servant John,
10 I was in the spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
11 Saying: What thou seest, write in a book,
The same occured for the Old Testament prophets, they were given, visions, by Angels. But what is an angel?
They are spirits. What is God? The Great Spirit. Major Spirit,---Supreme, we are minor spirits. But to the humanly minded, this is greek, foolish, it doesn't equate to finances and gain. To those who are stiff, this is blasphemy. Be free.
St. Paul used all manner of words to describe. Once you understand the Spirit, and He is teaching you, it is just a matter of time until your understanding builds up. To be able to reach people, to talk to them. To have Him teach them, through you. Your humanity must subside, become dead, so that the Spirit and spirits, can communicate.
God is the Great Spirit, the Supreme Being; no doubt about it. Not your ordinary household Indian spirit. The Creator. For Jesus said, "God is Spirit". No 'a'. Jesus said, I am come as flesh, "the Flesh" to redeem mankind. The Divinity of God supporting a Flesh to redeem souls. As many as 'would,' come to Him. Why does Jesus say Incarnate? For we are dulled by Sin. We spend more time in human thinking than anything else. How else can God reach reduced souls? Man got himself in this predicament. So God provides ways to man to get out of this predicament. Through what seems to be human means. What seems to be. This is no illusion. He paid the price for all mankind. That price comes with, a price tag. The 'pricetag' is infinite, there isn't a caculator powerful enough, and there is a bank large enough; because God is infinite. But, God is also gratuitous, His Mercy extends infinitely. Thus there is Purgatory. So we have: labor. Slothfulness is the result of Sin. Laziness, is Satan's gift to mankind. Patience is a virtue much denied. Promptness is a virtue mis-used. Promptness is perfected in and through charity. Because you love with a holy love you respond immediately. In fact every virtue is perfected through charity. Charity is the main branch. Faith and Hope is also one of three main branches of Virtue.
The Apocalypse is the Vision of the war between Satan and spirits. Satan declared war on God in the beginning.
If Lucifer had not rebelled and no one else followed suit to rebel, and everything was bliss, then we would not have such an Vision to read about. We would all see one, only True Vision for all of man, that is to orbit around God. To live in God, but on the Earth. For God would dwell in the soul of every man. God breathes a soul into man to make him live. Grace then attaches, dwells and conforms man to a beautiful being. The problem is that man is dulled by sin and this greatly reduces mans capacity to explore spiritual worlds, realms, schools of thought, classrooms, etc.,. In fact it reduces it to a factor of nill.
Your conditioning up to now, shows where your thoughts lie. What you think of most. The World of God is too grand for our dulled state, it would kill us, because it is 'infinite'. We have been limited by Sin. Sin is Satan. He reduced man to a ninkanpoop. Dimwits. Do you enjoy being a reduced person? Why do you listen to Satan? All he wants is to rob God of your status of Sonship, to rob you of your true Father. To have you pave his floor with your being as flesh and soul as a trophy.
When man works for Satan, he is a slave as a tortured being. Anxiety, and fear, the main ingredients, from these he creates more illusions. A captured and destroyed mind and conscience. A never ending string. If you start to get wise, he quickly flashes with some anxiety or fearful thought. You are toast! And your going to burn worse than toast in Hell. Have you ever seen toast burn? Catch on fire? This is a sample a miniscule one at that, the granduer of Hell is infinitely worse. In hell that piece of toast after it is burnt and reduced to ashes, is then reborn into new toast, to start the process of roasting again. So, what we have here is, burning, reducing, and then regenerating to have the endless cycle. Endless. Do not think this is a joke. It is not a joke oh, foolish men. It is real.
The Apocalypse says in the latter chapters; hell and death are thrown into the 'pool of fire.'
But those who are not believing will certainly find themselves there, it is written by God. He sees all from beginnig to end. Now in the Good Book, because God is good, it says to avoid this foolish outcome, you can however be saved from it. How? Convert to Christ now. That's the Good News. To save yourselves from this foolish, hell. The Savior of the World, Jesus Christ, made it possible for every man to be saved from this foolish outcome.
The Apocalypse is a true vision. It comes from Heaven, from the Truth, the Creator, and Word of God. It is a vision, full of metaphors, symbols that have a true meaning. Each metaphor and symbol has a hidden meaning. And they are grand meanings. This is a serious battle taking place for the souls of men. Your soul, your mother, your father, your brother, your sister. Your wife, your children, your friends. The whole of civilization. Not one person is an exception. Those who say, oh, I'm exclusive, what planet where you born on? Did you pop in from, wherever? Were you transmigrated from an amoeba? Did you happen to catch their names? Their faces, their looks? Were you hatched? Were you born in a testube? The list goes on today because of the foolish human science of man causing much delusions. Many are they. All those who do not believe, believe in some fantasy. An individually created end or eternity. There's only three realities. Heaven, Purgatory and Hell.
Heaven and Hell are eternal true starting points, when life ends on the earth, you're just starting to live. The path you take to the end determines you starting point, it begins on the earth. Purgatory is a temporary means to purge souls in to perfect charity. So, Purgatory will cease to be needed or exist after the Judgment of all. The Final Judgment.
Peace be with you always
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Re: Confusion about the Apocalypse
The Lord Jesus teaches us, that the Demon, works like an inhibitor to souls from becoming sightful.
The world is considered, this way: spirit of the world. Many say 'worldly,' in terms of this material world.
Men easily believe something tangible. That is what they can analyze and make an presumption.
So it is natural for men to presume according to what they have already learned from the natural existence.
That is, using only human science. What I can touch, digest, manipulate,---matter. This is all.
With God is entirely a different existence and matter all together. The Spiritual matter. I don't know exactly what matter a spirit is so, I can only say that, it is like its Creator. He is Love, Light, Wisdom, all these wonderful things. Not the household light nor the human idea of love and wisdom. It is a different matter all together. Not of this Universe.
Thus, when you read the Bible it is God's Matter. Capiche? It is not human matter. It can only be understood through Grace teaching and revealing things to you. The Apocalypse is John's baby. Jesus gave it to John. John is the only one besides those whom Jesus has revealed it to who can interpret it correctly and precisely.
The Holy Spirit can interpret it. But, Only through the Words go ahead command. This is a granduer of enormous size and implications. Grand! So one has to be truly mature in spirit for this to be understood and seen correctly. The rest are still growing to be capable of comprehending, if.
Without Jesus or John explaining it, you cannot grasp it. It so happens that Jesus explained parts of it to Maria Valtorta. She didn't understand either, but by Jesus going over the words that He wished for her to know.
The problem is the reasons for why we want to understand it. That's the main reason. At this point I don't care to know it in the depths I once had yearned for. Because, I found it is pointless to be able to say: I got it! Now I'm proud and happy! I can now reveal to others! But, really it was my human ego that wanted to know.
Truly pride is high today and the world is full in it. Must remove the spirit of the world from each.
Peace be with you always
Re: Confusion about the Apocalypse
Lastly Jesus explains why the Book of Apocalypse exists to Maria Valtorta.
We see Heaven, reaching down to wake up souls. We see Satan using 'his' 'pawns' to war against man.
God is in the Act of Saving. Satan is in the act of Killing.
Jesus teaches Maria that, the world is a facade, a veil for the true battle. It is a battle of spirits.
Innocent souls die because Evil men make it so.
The battle is this, the 10 kings in Apocalypse who are monarchs, aristocrats, nobles, are the controling
parties, hoarding, causing ruin everywhere. This is written in Apocalypse, you have to use your intelligence, the reasoning power. The Apocalypse is not Jesus' Apocalypse, it is man and Satan's. They start it. God does not start Evil.
God is not Evil. He does not conjure up ideas. Now when you read about the Gospel, it is Jesus coming to save man. If, man had understood, that great significance of Jesus' coming and followed Him, instead of Satan, there would be no Apocalypse.
To add a few, the Apocalypse is a vision of the future that God has already forseen and is then given to the Church to be given to men. This is what happens when men failed to understand, Salvation, the incredible grand significance. God is relaying what is going to take place in a few minutes of His time. To avoid such a cataclismic occurance, man would have to, stop being Childish. Quit being Hoards. Quit being beasts, Quit listening to your Flesh, Quit with your ego, and come to God to be saved from the inevitable visions in Apocalypse. To learn that, Great Men need to be, Great Men. Not Great Beasts. A man is in all sense of its creation a child of God in Heaven. Not a child of the devil in Hell. Through the Devil rebellion a second reality was created, "Hell". It was created for those who choose not to love. For God is Love.
Those who do not wish to follow God, have an alternative, "Hell". A fire unquencable never ending. This will be your eternity. It is written, that in Apocalypse, Hell was 'originally' created just for the Devil and his follower, that is rebellious angels, but the devil managed to con men into joining.
The Gospel, depicts a scene were, Jesus is confronting a few men possessed by 'Legion'. This demon says, "'no, not Hell', we do not want to go back there." "Do not torment us before the 'time.'" What most do not get, is this, they do not like 'hell' one bit! They want to be anywhere but there.
Then there is another one, Beelzebub, this one, says the samething. No, not, 'Hell!'. How to put it? They hate the place. It is love denied. Love becomes the tormentation. They rejected God's love for selfishness. What is selfishness?
It is much more defined than the human definitions. It is rejecting God who gave you a life. To exist, with God and live forever. The Devil twisted man's mind so much that, man thinks life is according to material things. A temporary existence in flesh. The Apocalypse sums up this grand illusion. We see God punishing man, and Satan using men possessed by him to kill fellow men. The devil kills. God creates and gives life.
To answer your question: Yes, men in league, in commerce with Satan, brought about this Book. God was kind enough to tell us what He see's. God was fully aware already. This is why Jesus came 2000 years ago. To help man from this future. To avoiding it altogether, to alter man's course away from death and destruction. And this vision tells us that God is All Seeing. From Beginning to End. Men and Satan, create all these signs an wonders. The one's God brings, are not, like the one's Men and Satan bring. Men and Satan use, the Negation. Tools devised from the Earth to destructive ends.
God uses angels to punish, foolish men who follow Satan. If God punishes, but doesn't kill, then, the punishments purpose serves to turn man from the delusion and live. Otherwise why bother? God, could wipe all of us in an blink. Think about it? Why does your parents punish you for the wrong you did? So you won't do it again, but mostly because your behavior is messed up it's not good. They say, that was bad, in some case that was evil. As long as Satan is around, men, have to fight extra hard to maintain good. You may even have to cut off that corrupted part.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. All life starts with Me and ends with Me. You cannot stop life from occuring. When a woman gets pregnant life has started. You can kill the flesh of the baby, but the soul lives forever. All those who kill life from entering the Earth's sphere, will be judged severely by Me. Hell is not a good enough judgment for these. The same applies to those who kill needlessly. Killing is needless.
Death is inevitable, but how you die is the question you should all ask yourselves.
Lucifer seduces weak men to come to his side and uses them to fight other souls, torture, prod, do harm.
He, Lucifer dangles, money, women, power, ambition, gold, etc.,. Then, if you failed to recognize the one, who is holding these things in front of you, in thought, or plain view, and you bite the bait, he reels you in like fish being pulled out of the sea. This is the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Lucifer, Satan, Red Dragon, Serpent.
Oh, Look I caught another unsuspecting dimwit! Another one for the dregs of hell! And He laughs!
As it is said, Satan hates God and Man. Hate in the strongest sense.
Peace be with you always
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